Making COH: EF a patch

I was talking to a friend (axis rock) today about the mod and he said "it sure is gonna be a shame when the mod dies" (as most mods do) so I was wondering sense you lads had a great relationship with the chaps at thq and relic if they would be so kind enough to make it a patch after they have tested it enough yeah? A mod that would never die!

I would love for this happen. However I don't think this would go over well in terms of legal issues. I would imagine the easiest way to do it is if the mod creators hand over full ownership of the mod to THQ/Relic - which some people may not like :/

thebomb wrote:
I would love for this happen. However I don't think this would go over well in terms of legal issues. I would imagine the easiest way to do it is if the mod creators hand over full ownership of the mod to THQ/Relic - which some people may not like :/

how would some people not like that? They would still get FULL credit for making the whole thing

ford_prefect wrote:

thebomb wrote:
I would love for this happen. However I don't think this would go over well in terms of legal issues. I would imagine the easiest way to do it is if the mod creators hand over full ownership of the mod to THQ/Relic - which some people may not like :/

how would some people not like that? They would still get FULL credit for making the whole thing

I don't know if Relic would be cool with giving them credit. Imagine if one of the developers agrees to handing over the mod but then turns around and sues Relic for intellectual property theft.

thebomb wrote:

ford_prefect wrote:

thebomb wrote:
I would love for this happen. However I don't think this would go over well in terms of legal issues. I would imagine the easiest way to do it is if the mod creators hand over full ownership of the mod to THQ/Relic - which some people may not like :/

how would some people not like that? They would still get FULL credit for making the whole thing

I don't know if Relic would be cool with giving them credit. Imagine if one of the developers agrees to handing over the mod but then turns around and sues Relic for intellectual property theft.

well then that man is an asshole and the other devs would surly take the other side and get things straight

Well that's capitalism for you.

Hmm, well, it's be awesome if we could get everyone using this.
Then we'd only need to use a single version of COH, ever ;)

thebomb wrote:
Well that's capitalism for you.

I lol'd ;D

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Loupblanc wrote:

Hmm, well, it's be awesome if we could get everyone using this.
Then we'd only need to use a single version of COH, ever ;)

that's my point loup!

Well, how do the DEVs feel about forcing the mod unto
Relic, to make sure they make it to be the 'official' version?
Everyone's GOTTA play soviets ;)

Loupblanc wrote:

Well, how do the DEVs feel about forcing the mod unto
Relic, to make sure they make it to be the 'official' version?
Everyone's GOTTA play soviets ;)

I don't understand, but making it a patch will allow every one to play as the "soviets" and relic will update it and make it better (with dev support)

Well, there are legal implications, yak, yak, yak... sigh.
But where there is a will there is way. Wouldn't be nice for
the OTHER mods, though.

I figure if enough people switch to EF: full time, then,
perhaps Relic will do something. / But, hm a lot of people are
into ranking games and the like... so It'd be a hard fight.

I wonder why Relic would turn down the EF mod...  Its even 10x better than ToV imo.

- Aaaaaactually...
- Now that I think about it from a DEV's point of view, TOV
is pretty awesome. Adds new playstyles, REWARD EXTRA
units... and a few other things. such as the Tiger Ace
campaign controls (Hero units). Which gives a loooot more
leeway (heritage coding) to modding! :)

  Now it's time to take advantage of these and make an
uber ton of soviet reward units! (SU122!!!)(BA64!)(T26!)
(Sigh, okaaaaay... T35?) :)

(I figure if enough people switch to EF: full time)

I have talked to people on the forums and in-game. It is strange but people really hate mods for some reason.......ask strangers in-game you will understand

they will say "lol you play mods?", "mods?? pfffffffft!", and other stuff

Yea, well mods...
This one is vanilla style. Not 'I am uber, and bots are weak'.
If Relic adopts it, then it's not a mod anymore is it? :)

Loupblanc wrote:

Yea, well mods...
This one is vanilla style. Not 'I am uber, and bots are weak'.
If Relic adopts it, then it's not a mod anymore is it? :)

exactly and that is my point if people see the "relic" logo on somthing they would be more than willing to download it (or make it a patch so they don't have to)

- Well, wouldn't be the first time a company outsourced
some work. I can cite tons of examples. Then when the work
was done, put it under their logo.
Heck, it might improve sales of COH, if people flock to game
to play it. Examples are Half Life, when some people went nuts
over some of the mods :)

: Day of Defeat is $#@$(@*!$ awesome mod in it's time :D

Loupblanc wrote:
- Well, wouldn't be the first time a company outsourced
some work. I can cite tons of examples. Then when the work
was done, put it under their logo.
Heck, it might improve sales of COH, if people flock to game
to play it. Examples are Half Life, when some people went nuts
over some of the mods :)

: Day of Defeat is $#@$(@*!$ awesome mod in it's time :D

was day of defeat a mod for half life? huh I did not know that well now I play mods for day of defeat ;D

Yea Day of Defeat was a mod of Half Life.
I played it when it first came out in 2001 or so ;)

Loupblanc wrote:

Yea Day of Defeat was a mod of Half Life.
I played it when it first came out in 2001 or so ;)

oh ok but back to point it would be fantastic if thq made it a patch (with all the credits the devs deserve)

I'm all for it. Just go get them to do it, now? :)

Loupblanc wrote:

I'm all for it. Just go get them to do it, now? :)

I can try but we all should

I'm Canadian like Relic is :)
Wrong state/province, though. Lol.

Loupblanc wrote:

I'm Canadian like Relic is :)
Wrong state/province, though. Lol.

lets put it in an Americans view "it's all ice" ;D

But you are not american, ar

Loupblanc wrote:

But you are not american, ar

Well technically I'm not I was born in High Wycombe England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Wycombe

Yea, I know you are a brit :)
Oh, hey, I have a friend. Cute girl. French. Plays COH.
Sisi. She might be going there to a private very strict school
soon. She's so sad she won't be able to barrage the opponent
into submission anymore :D

Loupblanc wrote:

Yea, I know you are a brit :)
Oh, hey, I have a friend. Cute girl. French. Plays COH.
Sisi. She might be going there to a private very strict school
soon. She's so sad she won't be able to barrage the opponent
into submission anymore :D

this has to do with the French, Canadians, a patch, or England in what way........

I know, but she is moving close to where you live ;)

The reason why this will never be an official patch is quite simple: Relic would be forced to give support for something they didn't create. The way modders create their mods is vastly different to the way Relic creates their games. On the other hand the EF team just can't give support to the full extent as we don't have access to all the sources and will never get this access. In addition to this it's hard to provide a Relic-like support for a team that doesn't create games / mods as a full-time job.

Copernicus wrote:
The reason why this will never be an official patch is quite simple: Relic would be forced to give support for something they didn't create. The way modders create their mods is vastly different to the way Relic creates their games. On the other hand the EF team just can't give support to the full extent as we don't have access to all the sources and will never get this access. In addition to this it's hard to provide a Relic-like support for a team that doesn't create games / mods as a full-time job.

Thank you I have been waiting for a dev to say that for a month thank you

Copernicus wrote:
The reason why this will never be an official patch is quite simple: Relic would be forced to give support for something they didn't create. The way modders create their mods is vastly different to the way Relic creates their games. On the other hand the EF team just can't give support to the full extent as we don't have access to all the sources and will never get this access. In addition to this it's hard to provide a Relic-like support for a team that doesn't create games / mods as a full-time job.

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!!! I hate you for trampling on my dreams dude :p
Where do you live, so I can come run you over with my
whole Tigger-gruppen?! :p Now rephrase that so I can
hear what I wanted to hear in the first place :p

Bad! Bad dev! Lol.

I hate you for making sense. Lol.

Loupblanc wrote:

Copernicus wrote:
The reason why this will never be an official patch is quite simple: Relic would be forced to give support for something they didn't create. The way modders create their mods is vastly different to the way Relic creates their games. On the other hand the EF team just can't give support to the full extent as we don't have access to all the sources and will never get this access. In addition to this it's hard to provide a Relic-like support for a team that doesn't create games / mods as a full-time job.

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!!! I hate you for trampling on my dreams dude :p
Where do you live, so I can come run you over with my
whole Tigger-gruppen?! :p Now rephrase that so I can
hear what I wanted to hear in the first place :p

Bad! Bad dev! Lol.

I hate you for making sense. Lol.

OH DEAR GOD RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Loup escaped the institution!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now all he has to do is swim across the lake and he's home free!!!!! THIS IS JUST WHAT I BUILT MY BUNKER FOR! ;D

Fix your computer, dude.
I need to hit you in the face with a few V1s :)

"I need to hit you in the face with a few V1s"

HAHA!

Why you stop playing? :)
Oh, and get Iron Cross mod. It's too much fun :)

Loupblanc wrote:

Why you stop playing? :)
Oh, and get Iron Cross mod. It's too much fun :)

meh I might play today oh and no I'm not getting any other mod than just this one I played Blitzkrieg mod a lot then when I came back to regular I SUCKED SO BAD!

Well Iron Cross works a lot like vanilla, though. Its sweet.
Blitzkrieg is almost a different game :)
EF will be vanilla compatible just about, so it's 'safe' for
your skills ;)