This MOD is absolute Shit! Developers, Please Read Why.

No doubt the developers have done the hard work: the models and everything looks really good. But they have not even paid attention to smaller details. Some of the tool tips for certain upgrade are all wrong, like the T34's Flamethrower upgrade tool-tip message is the same as the ingenaries.

And the infantry Repair veterancy choice, when in vet 2 and 3 the tool tip is still called rudimentary repair, and i don't know if the functionality is the same as well. There are lot of problems like this: wrong tool-tips, wrong descriptions. You might think they are not important, but those are the ones that makes the game play experience a better one - not keep adding fancy units, just to keep the MOD "alive".

Also the online units guide you have is also shit, out dated, not enough info. You should take a look at the company of heroes wiki and learn something. And include detail about various upgrades, i still cant figure out what the hell soviet "Additional reserves does", all it gives me is 5 Manpower after spending 50 Fuel on the upgrade; this is where a guide would be more useful. And what the hell is that gray bar on top every Ostheer unit??

And the number of bugs are Huge, in Ostheer infantry, where the hell are the med kits ???????????????????? If you changed it to logistic upgrade CHANGE THE DAMN DISCRIPTION!

Last edited June 11, 2015 at 6:10 AM by rzwan2007

I would have been first shocked in front of such violence. However like it seems little details are very important, I noticed your pseudonym and realized 2007 at the end, was probably your birthdate.

syntax_error wrote:
I would have been first shocked in front of such violence. However like it seems little details are very important, I noticed your pseudonym and realized 2007 at the end, was probably your birthdate.

If somebody can't find the right words and accidentally insults you, it's not a reason to insult back. I'm sure he wanted to be a constructive but his language skills didn't bring it that way. Anyways:

rzwan2007 wrote:
No doubt the developers have done the hard work: the models and everything looks really good. But they have not even paid attention to smaller details. Some of the tool tips for certain upgrade are all wrong, like the T34's Flamethrower upgrade tool-tip message is the same as the ingenaries.

Happens. We usually change the English description right away. But it can happen that the translations for your locale (you're from Sri Lanka right?) is not up-to-date because some translators left us / are inactive.

rzwan2007 wrote:And the infantry Repair veterancy choice, when in vet 2 and 3 the tool tip is still called rudimentary repair, and i don't know if the functionality is the same as well. There are lot of problems like this: wrong tool-tips, wrong descriptions. You might think they are not important, but those are the ones that makes the game play experience a better one - not keep adding fancy units, just to keep the MOD "alive".

It's always been rudimentary repairs (see PE Grenadiers) just to lift it from the different factions' engineers repairs which are faster than rudimentary repairs. You might also notice that difference to advance repairs is a little easier to spot cause of the double wrench shown as the icon.
We think that correct tooltips are important, but from time to time we miss some, feel free to report them (T34's Flamethrower upgrade tool-tip got reported already). We do not keep adding fancy units and if we make sure that they have an unique role. We are not Blitzkrieg. At the moment we are optimizing/replacing existing models so even low-mid end users can enjoy the coming Steam-Release.

rzwan2007 wrote:
Also the online units guide you have is also shit, out dated, not enough info. You should take a look at the company of heroes wiki and learn something. And include detail about various upgrades, i still cant figure out what the hell soviet "Additional reserves does", all it gives me is 5 Manpower after spending 50 Fuel on the upgrade; this is where a guide would be more useful. And what the hell is that gray bar on top every Ostheer unit??

The online unit guide is feeding directly from the latest game build meaning it should be up to date. We had a Wiki and it got spammed to death by adbots. The "Additional reserves" gives you a higher manpower income, it even says it in the description. It's for people that focus on infantry gameplay. The grey bar on top of thhe Ostheer units is the veterancy progress.

rzwan2007 wrote:
And the number of bugs are Huge, in Ostheer infantry, where the hell are the med kits ???????????????????? If you changed it to logistic upgrade CHANGE THE DAMN DISCRIPTION!

Med kits get available for infantry with veterancy and then they can only heal nearby squads not themselves. You can get healing from a medic bunker/emplacement that your stormpios are able to build.

Anyways you should probably work on your language skills, or at least the way you approach people and be glad I was the first Dev to see that :p. You would probably be banned already if somebody else read this.

I wonder if he just want to get attention and make people fight against him ;). I also noticed he also has several typos, tell about preaching for small details.

If you don't know what "Additional Reserves" does, just read the description. If you still don't understand it, it is not our fault, it is yours. The upkeep has been used since CoH 1.0 so don't blame us because you don't know basics from the game(not from the mod).

Unfortunately typos and incorrect texts are common in this mod, because we are always shorthanded with players to test, so that won't change even if you rant all day long. Also, quite a peculiar user you are, so the mod is shit because some of the texts are incorrect? Too bad it is your opinion alone.

Anyway, your post wasn't very helpful at all(other than meaning "make a better effort for descriptions!! It is runing the mod"), because all that texts were already fixed ages ago in the beta. You wouldn't notice it because there are a lot of threads with bugs and these ones might be hidden. But next time you want to raise attention over many bugs, try listing them, because if you just say "the number of bugs are huge" we don't get anything from you and we would just ignore the post.

Walentin wrote:
If somebody can't find the right words and accidentally insults you, it's not a reason to insult back. I'm sure he wanted to be a constructive but his language skills didn't bring it that way.

I sometime dont resist to make caustic humour. It was not in my mind harsh intention to insult back, even I admit goal was not to be pleasant toward the target. exageration made obvious, at least to me, it was a Bad joke rather  a hurtful insult.

Fine, I'll bite too.

I appreciate the concern for the lack of adequate descriptions and I actually think you are correct, in the sense that correct descriptions are essential to convey a clear message and to demonstrate that we do pay attention to details. I can somewhat relate as I am a perfectionist myself, to some degree at least.

However, two things struck me as odd in your plea. First, the COH wiki itself is not strictly up to date as it is a massive, gargantuan, astronomical effort to constantly keep all the descriptions up to date, although this counts for us even more, due to the frequently changing internal version of the mod that we possess.
Secondly, why would a lack of updated descriptions make the ENTIRE mod, thus design, gameplay, balancing, history, art, translation so forth and so on, sh*t? I fail to understand your logic here. How high are your standards of living? Does it really prevent you from playing and/or enjoying the mod that much?

The only description that I could see as somewhat bothersome is the logistics vet change, although that is being adressed so nothing else of interest to point out after that.

Perhaps next time, you could post it in a somewhat more constructive way and in a less denigrating tone. It would make things much easier and more agreeable for all of us, instead of jumping at each other's throats.

I hope you have a nice day and I would like to thank you for posting, sir rzwan2007

Kind regards.

Well, sorry about my tone of the post, i was kind of angry when i can't understand the stuff by simply reading the tool tip; that's how i been playing RTS games all along (and i am a huge fan of RTS and play alot of them). I always read the description of everything. Also i am not a pro gamer, and i am new to COH, and EF, and therefore don't know the history of either of those. I wouldn't have bothered to make a account and post this if i didn't liked other aspects of the MOD. Everything was good, but the very thing i rely on was not helping me, so got a bit angry. And i didn't know you once had a wiki, as i said i don't know anything about the history of this MOD. Hope you will get it running again.

I am from Sri Lanka, so my language is not English, and i am sure it needs improvement. But i am using the English language in the game. I was not born in 2007 - that is the day i made the Email address i used to register here - i was born in 1991.

Will be waiting till you release some kind of a Final Release of this MOD with everything fixed. Again sorry for my  tone. 

Last edited June 12, 2015 at 8:53 AM by rzwan2007

Just a small question, after a month or two, shouldn't people with the beta key (for steam version ofcourse), get the updated version the dev are working on? i mean, we are part of the beta testers also, it has been sitting here for so long without anything new since some error i recently found out on the soviet about a month ago

Other than the changes on PE, there is nothing else new in that regard. The Katyusha and ZiS-44 medic truck were finished, but I'm not sure if I uploaded that into the Steam version. I think I did.

Anyway, there is not a single topic new of feedback for the beta testers other than the one to roll back the vet symbols and the bugs you and someone else reported. What things are going to be changed if there is no feedback? I don't remember if I uploaded the fix to the Steam build though. I haven't been here for a while.