Introduction & Russian casualties question

First of all, a friendly hello from me and my clan "Reign of Madness" from GameReplays.org . You guys are doing a great job so far developing this promising mod and I can hardly wait for it to be released! Keep up the good work!!  :)

I have a question/issue to raise regarding the Soviet casualties which I haven't seen being discussed in any topic so far.
We know that Russians have a LOT of cheap infantry which can't retreat, meaning it will take massive casualties. By looking at this fact, I'm concerned about the 2v2 balance as an American or British player/ally could massively benefit from these cheap and massive casualties by gaining a ridiculus amount of free squads by their medic tent/casualty clearing stations. If this was to happen, it would be catastrophic for the mod IMHO. What are your plans about this and how are you going to "counter" it? ???


Thanks in advance! Again, Keep up the good work!! :D

Last edited October 28, 2009 at 2:09 PM by y0urkill3r

why you think you can play russians + brit? thats stupid...  ;)

denki_groove wrote:
why you think you can play russians + brit? thats stupid...  ;)

Because the game's structure would allow different allied factions to be teamed..  ::) :P
...or will it not? :-X

brit and russ at one side?  ::) dont think so...  ;)

you will be able to play brit/american + russian

and groundfire you've got a point there....

and denki_groove know your FAQ's

Q: Does EF change my exisiting CoH?
A: No. EF does not modify your existing CoH in anyway. EF is started separately. And even when you start EF, you can still play everything as normal - all existing factions and game modes are still available and not changed in any way. EF is really more an expansion than a mod, it adds the Soviets as new allied faction and the new Eastern Front maps. In fact, you will never have to start your regular CoH again!

Last edited October 28, 2009 at 2:49 PM by Gew00n

noes thats shit  >:( and unreal...  ::) i would never play against russ + ami or brit on one side...

but you can

First of all, original factions will be unchanged, and you can play them alongside our new factions. That has been a major part of Eastern Front's ethos since the start. Purists can still play Soviet/Ostheer matches if they want to, but we didn't want to restrict those who enjoy the other factions.

Friendly medics won't be able to rescue the cheaper Soviet infantry for the balance reasons stated.

a major part? russ + ami vs axis? thats a joke?

Nobody's forcing you to play with the Americans or Brits... if you want a 'historically accurate' game, go ahead and host one.

This mod has been designed as an expansion from the start, that is part of the original design, and it works well. It helps us keep limits on balance, it keeps everything in an environment everyone is comfortable with. Most mod players install a mod, play it twice, and then forget about it. We want players to never have to click on the main Company of Heroes icon again, because everything they need in CoH is right here.

Taking things away from players is the worst thing an expansion can do. Nobody is stopping you from playing just Soviet.

WartyX wrote:
Friendly medics won't be able to rescue the cheaper Soviet infantry for the balance reasons stated.

I guess that pretty much answers the original question. Thanks!!  :)

denki_groove wrote:
why you think you can play Russians + Brit? that's stupid...  ;)

Well no offence but people can play differently than you sorry that's just being eragtant

WartyX: Please refrain from using all-caps.

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denki_groove wrote:
noes thats shit  >:( and unreal...  ::) i would never play against russ + ami or brit on one side...

are you realy a dev I think I may know more than you on this mod (no offense) ;D

Last edited October 28, 2009 at 10:10 PM by ford_prefect

Alright, ALRIGHT,

Things are getting too intense in this form as it is, everyone calm down, take a deep breath and chill out...

Now, while on the topic of medics and such, can the Russian Medic Truck heal your allies units as well as your own?

FriendlyFire wrote:
Alright, ALRIGHT,

Things are getting too intense in this form as it is, everyone calm down, take a deep breath and chill out...

Now, while on the topic of medics and such, can the Russian Medic Truck heal your allies units as well as your own?

lol ;D ok sorry doc. :)

denki_groove is not an actual developer. He is one of our community-based translators.

And yes, I'm fairly sure that the Soviet ZiS-5 Supply Truck can heal all friendly units.

... ZiS-6... ::) ;)

WartyX wrote:
And yes, I'm fairly sure that the Soviet ZiS-5 Supply Truck can heal all friendly units.

How will the ZiS-6 mechanics work? Will it be healing like the American Triage centre (one-time investment for infinite healing)or like the CCS of the brits having to pay munis for a healing period?

My guess is that if it's going to be lets say like the american triage centre in a mobile version, that would render the other allied factions healing methods useless/pointess as the american will have exactly the same healing in a mobile version (so no need to build a triage) and the brit will no longer have to pay 40 munis to heal his troops since he has free heals from the russian player and make the ccs a medic tent only. (always refering to 2v2s)

Last edited October 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM by y0urkill3r

WartyX wrote:
denki_groove is not an actual developer. He is one of our community-based translators.

And yes, I'm fairly sure that the Soviet ZiS-5 Supply Truck can heal all friendly units.

still you'd think he know how your game works ;D

Well... some might say the british triage center makes the
American one obsolete. And that the soviet one is even
worse. Well, everyone has pros and cons. Could say
British are pointless as they cannot CAP all flags easily
(OP), nor do they start with engineers.

All factions are to be unique in their own way. Of course
some will have weaknesses, and others strenghts. Look at
Wehr. They can make AOE healing forward barracks.
Isn't that convenient for the Wehr? :)

Wait till mod comes out, then we can see :)

'With eyes unclouded by hate' ;)